Read the excerpt below and answer the two questions that follow. Your comments are due by Sunday, 10/9. While your responses should be intelligent in nature, don't forget to have some fun as well. Try and respond to each others' ideas. Use this Blog as a "Virtual Classroom." I will only chime-in on rare occasions as the deus ex machina. If you want a high-grade for the assignment, then we need some high-grade thinking...Enjoy:
"Dude, are you like totally at all familiar with Sigmund Freud's Oedipus Complex? Siggy Freud didn't get the idea from the story of Oedipus, but used it because it was an almost perfect symbolic fit. The idea of the Oedipal Complex is about the sexual identification young males have with their mother. Whoa, dude, lighten up, it was just because of proximity; it's not some sicko kind of thing. You see, the little dude identifies with his mother as a sexual partner and comes to view the father as a rival for her affection. Because of the psychological trauma involved, there can be only two outcomes: either the child kills his rival, or he represses the sexual feelings.”
1. What do you think? Had you heard of the Oedipal Complex before? Based upon your knowledge of the classic Greek tragedy, do you think Freud chose well in naming this psychological condition?
2. Do some quick research, and find out what the complex is called for females. Be sure to include from where the name is derived; that is, why the complex is given that name.
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23 comments:
Sir, before anyone says anything else, you spelled "than" where I'm pretty sure "then" goes. Just saying.
I don't know what you're talking about Jason?!? I don't see anything wrong. You need to stop running so much (and blowing off assemblies)...
From a biological point of view, Freud's concept makes perfect sense. In the wild there is constant conflict between males over females in terms of mating because all animals (and some plants) are genetically encoded to have one priority above all else- that is mating. "All else" would therefore include social and moral drawbacks to mating with one's own mother if circumstances require it. Especially in a young child who knows little of unspoken moral and social contracts and spends most of "his" time in a singular environment (his home) with, for the most part, one male and one female (not too much to pick from). This zeal among all males to become the dominant or "alpha-male" is truly a remarkable outcome of natural selection.
Likewise, the electra complex, as it is known, is a young girls' psycho sexual identification with her father and competition with her mother. This, although less common in the wild, also is a result of that same genetic encoding and limited exposure to society that drives all creatures to procreate.
Whether or not it is appropriate to name such phenomena after Oedipus is certainly debatable. For instance, sexual feelings for his mother and the slaughter of his father are paramount to the plot of Sophocles' Oedipus Rex. However it is clear in the story that Oedipus' actions were not even remotely out of some primal, incestuous, love for Jocasta, but nothing more than his fate to which he was oblivious. In other words it was out of his control and he was not even aware that the woman he created several children with was in fact his mother. Nor was he aware that the old man he slayed on the road was his father. therefore it is fair to say that Oedipus' situation as illustrated by Sophocles is similar yet unmistakably different than Freud's oedipal complex.
Freud's name in a way fits the conditon, however I also think that it may not be appropriate. The Oedipal complex is described as a son's sexual feelings for their mother, and compeition between them and their father. The mother and child bond is the strongest and closest bond their could be. Childen are attached to their mohers from birth; they were raised by them, loved, nurtured and breast fed. After so many years of being nuture and taken care of, of course there's going to be a strong bond. With a son, that is the first relationship they ever develope with a woman. Also after being raised, cared for and protected by their mother, the son will eventually fight with their father for their moher's love and affection. Being breast fed and so close with the mother contributes to why the son might have sexual feelings for her.
The reason I think the name isn't appropriate, is because Oedipus didn't share sexual feelings and slept with Jocasta because she washis mother. He sw Jocasta as his lover. He may have slept with his mother, but not with the intentions of wanting to sleep with his mom. He wanted to sleep with the woman he fell in love with.
The electra complex is a young girl's sexual feelings for a father, and competition with their mother. This derived from the Greek myth of Electra, who wanted her brother to avenge the death of their father Agamemnon, by killing their mother, Clytemnestra
Freud’s Oedipus complex fits the desire young boys have to receive affection from their mother and kill their father as a rival. Although Oedipus was not aware of his true lineage, he fell in love with his mother Jocasta. This may very well have been because she was secretly his mother; therefore, the bond between them was inevitable. This complex occurs in boys from 3-6 so it is innocent. You won’t see a 3-6 year old boy killing his father unless something is horribly wrong. Most of the time, these feelings are purely psychological and are an introduction to the male’s hormones and desire for a female partner. The way Oedipus Rex’s fate played out was a dramatization of this complex but a prime example none the less. In a way, Oedipus was like an innocent child because he was not aware of the true evils of his acts.
The similar complex for females is called the Electra Complex. This name originated from, of course, a Greek mythologic character. (Makes you wonder what was up with the Greeks huh?) Electra, plotted to kill her mother and step-father with the help of her brother. The reason for this was because the mother and step-father had previously killed her father Agammemnon. This shows the preference Electra had for her father and the devastation she felt from losing him.
Oh yeah, I remember that guy. We learned about him in AP Euro, right? Anyway, you can see some elements of the Oedipal Complex in the Sophocles's play, Oedipus Rex; however, like Marissa I doubt Freud's concept is appropriate. Oedipus's fate was handed right to him, when Jocasta gave birth to him. Lets just say she should find more suitable servants to "get the job done," but, then the play would be ruined. Oedipus couldn't help the path of events he had suffered from, because they were already handed to him. The oracle, who predicted his life was basically like, "This is your life, make the most of it." Oedipus really had no chance in avoiding his fate. But, back to the topic at hand, you can see elements of Freud's concept, because Oedipus did kill his father, and he only killed him, because his father's servant made him "angry." Oedipus went off to Thebes, saved the town, and all that good stuff, and married his mother. I doubt this goes along with Freud's concept, because Oedipus never had a relationship with his real mother to begin with! I believe Freud's concept starts from the moment the baby's born to childhood, and adulthood. Oedipus only spent three days with Jocasta, and that is honestly not enough time to pick up on a psychological behavior.
The opposite of the Oedipal Complex is the Electra Complex. This term, however, wasn't actually coined by Freud, but by his collaborator, Carl Jung. Freud rejected Jung's term of the complex, because Freud said the Electra Complex was "an analogy of the attitude between the two sexes." The complex comes from the Greek Myth of Electra, who plotted matricidal revenge with her brother, against her mother and her stepfather, for the murder of her father. The complex would be correct for Electra, because she actually got to bond with the opposite sex parent, unlike Oedipus who was taken away from Jocasta when he was three days old.
I had not heard of the Oedipal Complex before. Because of the close proximity and the fact that the mother is always the first of the other gender to love, nurture, and care for the male child, the child subconsciously builds a relationship with the mother. The mother is also the one of the only people that sees and touches the child while in the nude. This adds to the relationship and creates to the child a sexual relationship.
The child subconsciously sees his father as a rival because he sees him (the father) being intimate with his mother. However, as the child has morals taught to him, learns to understand that his mother is his fathers mate, and must learn to repress those feelings.
I believe Freud chose an adequate name (though not the best fitting). Unlike the male child, Oedipus did not know that Jocasta was his mother. His long absence and supposed death made it impossible for Jocasta to recognize grown child. Because the two stories have a difference in the reason that the male child has developed a sexual longing for the mother makes the name of the complex not the best fitting for the condition.
The opposite of the Oedipal Complex, also know as its negative, is the Electra complex. This is a complex created by Freud’s followers (and rejected by Freud) in which a female child experiences that same sexual longing with her father therefore creates a rivalry with her mother. This was based off the Greek myth in which Electra and her brother, Orestes, plot the murder of the murder of their mother and stepfather. This is due to the fact that they killed (the mother and stepfather) their (Electra’s and Orestes’s) father. However, as stated above, Freud rejected this idea because he believed that this complex was a state only experienced by male children.
Last year, in AP European History we had talked about the Sigmund Freud's Oedipus Complex. I do think Freud chose well in picking this name because in the play we do see a son killing his father and marrying his mother. However, despite the importance of the play to Freud's idea I don't believe the reader will ever encounter an actual desire for Oedipus to kill Laius, his father; and commit knowing incest with Jocasta, his mother. Being that Sophocles' play was mostly based on fate, i believe that since Oedipus had no idea that Jocasta and Laius were his parents Oedipus had no real intentions of fulfilling such a heinous prophecy.
But overall, Freud's choice of words for his "Oedipus Complex" was appropriate because since Oedipus was attracted to Jocasta and fell in love with her he obviously had a desire to mate with her and he did murder his father, although, it wasn't necessarily due to Laius being a rival for Jocasta's affection.
The Oedipus Complex is a deep common male desire to sleep with one's mother and make of the father "a rival for her affection". Likewise, girls have a similar complex known as the Electra Complex. Carl Gustav Jung proposed that girls have an Electra Complex which is "a girl’s daughter–mother competition for psychosexual possession of father"(Wikipedia). However, Jung states that since a female does not have male genitals in order to sexually possess her mother, the female then directs her sexual desire towards her father.
Freud's Oedipal Complex makes perfect sense! In society, we all compete against eachother for the opposite sex; even animals compete to find their mate. As Freud says, the male dominates his father to get the affectionate love of his mother. In the end, it's always a male dominating another male for a female. I first heard of the Oedipal Complex last year in AP Euro, and was freaked out over the fact that men think that way toward their mothers. Like wow, that's weird. The name "Oedipal Complex" fits the condition perfectly. Who better to name it after than the infamous greek epic hero, Oedipus. His story is twisted and the true deinition of the Oedipal Compex. Although Oedipus didn't realize that he killed his father and slept and married his mother, he still showed the outcome of the psychological condition.
The female version of this psychological condition is called the Electra Complex. Just as the Oedipal Complex comes from the Greek character, Oedipus, Electra is a Greek character as well. She plotted the murder of her mother and stepfather to gain the affection of her father, which is how she becomes infamous for the condition.
Freud's mind is extremely complex and to come up with this condition is beyond me. Kudos to him!
As others have stated before me, Mr. Budzynski had given us a minute insight to Freud’s development of the Oedipus complex. The Oedipus complex is a concept developed by Sigmund Freud to explain the origin of certain psychological disorders in childhood. It is defined as a boy’s unconscious desire for the exclusive love of his mother; the desire includes jealousy towards his father and the unconscious wish for his death. The desire to replace his father is concealed after recognizing the father’s power. Fearing chastisement, this anxiety and the Oedipus conflict are resolved when the boy represses his sexual feelings for his mother, gives up his rivalry with his father, and begins to identify with him.
However, the naming of Freud’s theory is flawed. Oedipus did in fact kill his father and sleep with his mother, but not because of some unconscious longing for intimacy with Jocasta. Oedipus is told, by a member of the royal court, of the Oracle’s prophecy. The love for his mother and father, and the mere thought of this prophecy drives Oedipus into retreat. The thought alone of doing such a thing as having sexual relations with his own mother drives Oedipus from Corinth, away from royalty, and the only life he has ever known. Oedipus did not suffer from the Oedipus complex: fate determined his woeful path.
The feminine counterpart, the Electra complex, is the desire and conflict of the female child who wants to possess her father sexually and to eliminate her mother as a rival. Its name derives from the Greek myth of Electra, who wanted her brother to avenge their father’s death by killing their mother. Electra’s deep devotion to her father implies feelings deeper than just paternal admiration.
I agree with Karissa in saying the Oedipus Complex is not an appropriate name for the psychological condition of a child acquiring sexual feelings towards their mother and a rivalry with their father for the mother's affection. The condition is named after Oedipus, a character from Greek myth. Oedipus was destined from before he was born to murder his father, Laius, and sleep with Jocasta, his mother. He was given up just days after his birth and was to be killed in order to prevent the fulfillment of this prophecy. However, Oedipus ended up living and wasn't able to stray from his destined path. Freud's Oedipus Complex is defined as a subconscious yearning for the mother, sexually and competitive feelings towards the father; it is seen from ages three to five. In Sophocles' Oedipus Rex, Oedipus does kill his father and have children with his mother but the fact is, he did not know of his lineage and had no knowledge of where he was truly from. Doesn't a child need to be around his parents and develop a relationship in order to have this condition? If anything, Oedipus should have killed his adoptive father Polybus and slept with Merope because in his eyes those were his parents, and during his early years, they were the ones nurturing and building a bond with him. Oedipus was just a victim of ignorance because he wasn't aware of who his real parents were. Destiny was also a major factor in this because if it weren't for the crucial role it played in this Greek tragedy, the prophecy would not have occurred: Oedipus would be dead and Laius would still be with Jocasta, ruling Thebes.
The similar condition for females is called the Electra Complex. It is named after another Greek tragedy by Sophocles, Electra. In this play, Electra conspires with her brother to kill Clytemnestra, her mother. She is motivated by her love for her father, Agamemnon who was murdered by his brother and Clytemnestra. Whether this love was just a father-daughter bond or if it was more a lust for him is hard to define.
Like most of the others stated, we have heard about the Oedipal Complex in AP Euro, I also learned about this last year in psyhcology with ms. Covert. In my opinion i agree with Karissa and Gopika, the Oedipal Complex may be linked with Oedipus Rex but the true defintion does not describe Oedipus' situation.
The Oedipal Complex is a psychoanalytic theory in which refers to a boy's desire to sexually possess his mother as well as kill his father. The Oedipal Complex occurs in the third of five pshycosexual development stages: the phallic stage. This name was not properly given because although Oedipus did in fact sleep with his mother and kill his father, it was all because of fate. He was destined from birth to fulfill that prophecy. It was not because of unconscious feelings that drove Oedipus to sleep with Jocasta. The thought of sleeping with his mother and killing his father led Oedipus to eventually retreating from his parents, in hope of not fulfilling the dreadful prophecy.
The Electra Complex is a girl's psychosexual competition with her mother for the possession of her father. This name was derived from the 5th century greek mythologic character, Electra. In this greek myth, Electra plotted revenge with her brother against their mother an stepfather, for the murder of their biological father. The people of ancient greek mythology were very clever and we have developed many theories based on something they did for leisure.
Like most of the others stated, we have heard about the Oedipal Complex in AP Euro, I also learned about this last year in psyhcology with ms. Covert. In my opinion i agree with Karissa and Gopika, the Oedipal Complex may be linked with Oedipus Rex but the true defintion does not describe Oedipus' situation.
The Oedipal Complex is a psychoanalytic theory in which refers to a boy's desire to sexually possess his mother as well as kill his father. The Oedipal Complex occurs in the third of five pshycosexual development stages: the phallic stage. This name was not properly given because although Oedipus did in fact sleep with his mother and kill his father, it was all because of fate. He was destined from birth to fulfill that prophecy. It was not because of unconscious feelings that drove Oedipus to sleep with Jocasta. The thought of sleeping with his mother and killing his father led Oedipus to eventually retreating from his parents, in hope of not fulfilling the dreadful prophecy.
The Electra Complex is a girl's psychosexual competition with her mother for the possession of her father. This name was derived from the 5th century greek mythologic character, Electra. In this greek myth, Electra plotted revenge with her brother against their mother an stepfather, for the murder of their biological father. The people of ancient greek mythology were very clever and we have developed many theories based on something they did for leisure
Like everyone said we did hear about this concept briefly in AP Euro the last year. Oedipus complex is when a young boy has sexual desires for his mother, but the name does not fit the disorder.
This theory does make sense because of the fact that the mother does have a very close relationship with her child. She changes them, breastfeeds them and in general nurtures them. The young boy starts to develop sexual desires toward his mother because she is the closest to him. The young boy, as a result, has competitive feelings that surface toward his father. As the child grows older he restrains those feelings toward his father.
I believe that Freud did name it wrong. Although Oedipus did sleep with his mother and did kill his father, and he fulfilled the prophecy, he did not have intentional sexual desires for Jocasta. He didn’t even know that Jocasta was his mother, he just saw her as his lover. This was his horrible fate and he could not avoid it no matter what he did.
Electra complex is the same thing as Oedipus complex but refers to a girl having sexual desires for her father. This has the same affect to a girl; she develops feelings for her father and has competitive feelings towards her mother. This idea comes from the Greek mythological character, Electra, who plotted the death of her mother with her brother, against Clytemnestra, their mother, and Aegisthus, their father, because they murdered her father, Agamemnon.
Ok... so, along with almost everyone else, I first heard of "Oedipal Complex" a few years ago, but never really knew what it was or meant. Then, we studied a little about Freud's theories in AP European History last year, so I'm pretty familiar with the concept.
Sigmund Freud was one of the most brilliant psychologists to have researched psychoanalytical phenomenon in the world. Perhaps his most known theory, Oedipal Complex, is, in a nutshell, the sexual feelings a boy, or a man, has for his mother, and the adversity with his father that is sure to follow. This begins from an early age; a boy doesn't just wake up one day and happen to fall in love with his mother... As Marissa had stated earlier, being breastfed from the mother might have contributed to this. Also, in most families, as boys grow up, they usually fear the father because of their anticipated punishment (You don't see your mom breaking out the belt). Because of this, young boys seek confort from their mothers, or more of just a "please don't let me hit me again" attitude. This is also reflected in society. The terms "mama's boy" and "daddy's girl" are perfect examples of this; you don't hear someone being called a "mama's girl" or a "daddy's boy"...haha.
Naming this psychological phenomenon after Oedipus, the tragic hero in Sophocles' "Oedipus Rex" is suitable, yet not completely appropriate at the same time. First off, it is a great example of a man loving his mother and hating, in this case killing, his father. However, Oedipus did so unknowingly. As Freud's theory of "Oedipal Complex" suggests the boy knowingly sexually desiring his mother and wanted to kill his father, this name is not completely suitable for the phenomenon. If Oedipus had lived with his parents throughout his life, then killed his father and married his mother, this name would have been perfect for it, on top of the story being even more...strange. In fact, the people in Oedipus' lives attempted to avoid the prophecy that he was going to do so by sending him far away. In the end, however fate catches up with you. (Although, Oedipus could have avoided the situation all together by not killing some random old man who could have been your father, and by not marrying an older woman who could have been your mother.)
Similarly, this phenomenon exists in females as well, and refers to a young girl being attracted towards her father and despising her mother. Although not as common as "Oedipus Complex" it still results from similar situations growing up. It's name is derived from another one of Sophocles' tragic plays, Electra. Electra wanted her brother to avenge their dead father, Agamemnon by killing their mother Clytemnestra and their current stepfather. Clearly, if she was to go as far this, she felt some deeper feelings for her father than just a normal father-daughter relationship. All in all, I think "Electra Complex" is a pretty suitable name for this situation as well.
Me being myself, of course, completely forgot that we had to do this and now I have almost nothing to say since everyone else already pretty much said everything. BUT I guess I'll just give my opinion about this crazy person, a.k.a. Oedipus', weird incest actions and how it relates to Sigmund Freud's Oedipus Complex. :D
Honestly, I’ve never heard of this but it does sound interesting. The whole idea of a son (or maybe even daughter) competing with their father for the love/possession of their mother is actually kind of entertaining and comical. The term “Oedipus Complex” is used to describe Freud’s theory of psychosexual stages of development. In my opinion, I don’t think Freud named this correctly because in the tragic play, Sophocles makes the play to be a twisted mystery. Many will debate whether or not Oedipus was to blame for all the actions that occurred. It wasn’t Oedipus’ fault that his mother gave him up at birth and it wasn’t his fault that he coincidentally slept with his biological mother and killed his biological father. It’s not like Oedipus planned every single event to happen so he can end up sleeping with his mother.
“Oedipus Complex”, in female version, is called the “Electra Complex”. This was introduced by Carl Gustav Jung, as a girl’s psychosexual competition with her mother for “ownership” of her father. The “Electra Complex” comes from the 5th century BC Greek mythological character Electra. Her plan was to have revenge with the help of her brother, Orestes, against Clytemnestra, their mother, and Aegisthus, their stepfather, for their murder of Agamemnon, their father(Wikipedia.com).
So apparently everyone has heard of Freud's concept but i have not heard of it before. Well i agree with his point of view because he clearly states how the child had great deal of affection toward his mother,which made him go against his father. It demonstrates how male and a female have affection toward each other because in life these mammals are able to mate. It is not anything new to see this occur as life develops things change and that is why it happened. This is because according to the child he was doing the right thing by defending his partner. I am guessing that this child did not know what he was doing. I understand how they want to mate or be in a relationship but if it was a child how could he know from right and wrong or if he really wanted to his mother would have showed him the right path. This could only happened because the child is always home and was always with the mother. The mother would always nurture and care for him that his feelings changed toward her.
In contrast for females it was called feminine oedipus attitude and negative oedipus complex. It was also known as Electra Complex. This was where a young girl's sexual feeling fell for her father and saw her mother as an enemy. It came from the Greek mythology characteristic. Electra, wanted her brother to avenge the death of their father Agamemnon, by killing their mother, Clytemnestra. This showed how close Electra had been to her father and the affection she felt was strong.
I do not think this is connecting with Oedipus because he never did anything on purpose. He did not want to be with his mother as a women. He did not think he was sleeping with his mother but with someone he fell in love with. He did not kill his father just to be with his mother. Some errors and mistakes that he made caused that to happen. It was fate that took over his life it controlled everything.
Okay so I first learned about Sigmund Freud's theory of "Oedipal Complex" last year in Ms. Covert's Psychology class. Freud uses this term to express the psychosexual stages boys or men have for their mothers. The males feel as though they have a sexual attraction for their mother. To keep this bond they want to get rid of any competition which would be the harming or killing of their father.
As Prince and Marissa have said this would begin at a young age where the child spends most of their time with their mother.(Being breast fed and etc.) From birth the child has a special bond with the mother because hello were you not in her stomach for 9 months ? :)
Similar to the actions of the Greek hero, Oedipus, in Sophocles's play "Oedipus Rex", I think it was both adequate and inadequate to use this play as an example of this term. How often do you hear about a son killing his father for his mother's sexual feelings? Because Oedipus loved and had sexual feelings towards his wife, Jocasta. However, what he didn't know was that Jocasta was both his wife and mother therefore his intentions weren't exactly fitting in Sigmund Freud's theory. If Oedipus grew up with both of his parents and felt sexual feelings towards his mother and hatred towards his father then we can assume that this term was psychologically correct. So yes and no, I think Freud was clever to use Oedipus as an expression of his term because he knew those who saw the play or heard of it will be able to understand the concept easier, however Freud's theory was a bit different then what was shown in "Oedipus Rex."
The "Electra Complex" is the term used for women who crave sexual feelings for their fathers. Similar to "Oedipus Rex", this term was taken from the 5th century Greek mythology character, Electra. Electra had intentions to kill her mother with the help of her brother due to the jealousy and hatred of the killing of her biological father and her new step father.
Just like everyone else, I have also heard of Sigmund Freud. The first time I heard of him was in Mr.Bud's class. He went into a few of the details concerning Sigmund's concept about the connection between mother and child in AP Euro. Oedipus complex has to do with a son's desire for the attention of his mother. A child's constant fight with the father, just to get the full attention of the mother. This relationship is seen as a sexual relation by Sigmund due to the fact that this is a boy's first interactions with a mother.
I do not believe that Freud choose well in the naming of this psychological condition. Oedipus did not purposely commit the crimes he did due to his sexual desire for his mother. In fact when he discovered his wrong doings he was absolutely disgusted with himself to the point of wishing death upon himself and hoping/pleading for his own exile. Oedipus even took his own eye sight away (which was quite disgusting, by the way, if you check out the details in the book) because he didn't want to be aware of his own sins any longer. Oedipus did not suffer from this psychological condition, this was just the fate which had been set up for Oedipus since the beginning. Oedipus only knew of what he had done when the messenger had owned up to his part in the play. Before the speaking of the messenger Oedipus's life was nothing but a bunch of lies and complete cluelessness on Oedipus's part. He is completely unaware of who he is, as well as the life he himself has lived. Nothing was done intentionally, this was all just the mysterious works of fate. Oedipus never wanted to sleep with his own mother,have children with his mother, or kill his father. Oedipus was a person greatly looked at by the people for his figuring out of the riddle, he would never intentionally try to ruin his image. Through the ways in which he fought Tiresias or Creon it is easy to see just how protective Oedipus is of how others see him, he will not have his name be trashed. This was all the works of fate, bound to happen... sucks for Oedipus of course.
For females the complex is called "Electra Complex". Electra complex is basically the same as Oedipus complex except now the girl is fighting the mother for the father's attention. The Electra complex connects with the Greek Myth of Electra. Electra sought revenge with the help of her brother, to kill her mother and stepfather. Electra wanted to kill the stepfather and mother due to the fact that they had killed her father Agamemnon. Of course out of extreme love for her father, Electra sought the death of those who had taken the life of her father. Through this myth you see the extreme relationship between father and daughter.
i've actually heard of this before when i was doing my literary crticism essay on dracula. Several interpretations say the core fantasty of dracula is derived from the oedipus complex, a kind of incestous, necrophilous, oral-anal sadistic, all in a wrestling match
i also think that Freud's name is a good symbolic representation because oedipus did sleep with his own mother and kill his father, but he never did so intentionally. He was always trying to run away from the foretold prophecies about him. He never actually wanted to kill Laius and sleep with Jocosta. He definitley wouldn't have done it either if he knew that they were his actual parents, unless he was stupid and did it purposefully, in which case Freud's name would fit prefectly. Freud's term would be a good representation also if Oedipus was raised by Laius and Jocasta, in which there would be a chance that psychological trauma could occur. Oedipus was just another victim of fate.
In the case of females, the complex is called the electra complex. It's derived from the 5th-century BC Greek mythologic character Electra, who plotted matricidal revenge with Orestes, her brother, against Clytemnestra, their mother, and Aegisthus, their stepfather, for their murder of Agamemnon, their father. In this complex the daughter sees the mother as a rival for the affection of the father, the sexual partner. The term is is good to use because if Electra was willing to go this far for revenge, she had some deeper feeling for her father. This term was created by Freud's collaborator Carl Jung. Freud however rejected this saying that the complex stricly applies to only the male child.
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Oedipal complex "denotes the emotions and ideas that the mind keeps in the unconscious that concentrate upon a boy’s desire to sexually possess his mother, and kill his father." This sounds like the philosophy that was in the story. Freud is not the name condition. this is because Oedipus was a victim in the whole story. later when he confronts her she suicide that means it must have been true. So he was victim to what he had not known of the truth.
"Electra Complex" is the same of Oedipal Complex but for girls. Electra complex was drived from the 5TH century when a Greek women named "Electra" was getting revenge on her step father for the death of her father.Freud then comes in there and makes his theory. It ios the fight for power to take over for father.
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